EPISODE 41: Empathy Over Ego: Why We're Angry At The Wrong People In Cybersecurity - The Cyber Empathy Podcast


Welcome to Compromising Positions!

The award-winning tech podcast that asks non-cybersecurity professionals what we in the industry can do to make their lives easier and help make our organisations more prepared to face ever-changing human-centric cyber threats! 

We’re still on a summer break but in the meantime we are delighted to share with you an episode from friend of the show, Cyber Empathy which Lianne appeared on earlier this year. In this episode Lianne discussed how she hates the term ‘weakest link’ when talking about our colleagues, how the language that we use in cybersecurity can be incredibly harmful to our cybersecurity posture, and how she applies her skills as an anthropologist to her organisation.

Thank you kindly to Cyber Empathy for giving us permission to share this episode!


Key Takeaways:

  • Why Anthropology and Cybersecurity Make for Good Bedfellows - Cybercriminals are most successful when they aim for the human element. Knowing what it means to be human continues to be very important for facing emerging cybersecurity threats!

  • When Was the Last Time You Gave a Gift? Lianne discusses how the giving of ‘gifts’ in your organisation might just lead people to bond with your message through the principle of reciprocity.

  • Trust Issues? In cybersecurity our whole schtick is trust issues, but does it have to be that way? If we trusted people a little more, could they help us in the fight against cybersecurity criminals?

  • Tell Me a Story - Storytelling is the crux of human existence and one of our main drivers of our evolution - and yet in cybersecurity, despite having exciting stories to tell, we instead drone on about MFA! Lets make cybersecurity interesting again through storytelling!


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We hope you enjoyed this episode - See you next time, keep secure, and don’t forget to ask yourself, ‘Am I the compromising position here?’ 

Keywords: cybersecurity, storytelling, trust, anthropology, empathy, reciprocity


Show Notes

About Andra Zaharia

Andra is a cybersecurity communication manager focused on organic growth and fighting infosec marketing cliches to make content that people actually enjoy. She is also the creator of the award-winning podcast Cyber Empathy where she shares stories of kindness, curiosity and connections that show how humans shape online security and privacy.

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